UGH he drives me crazy!! Can we just move the presidential election to now and get rid of him?!!
Thanks for the article nvr!
fact-checking key assertions in the state of the union addressmonday, january 28, 2008; 11:21 pm for the record: iraq .
and today, this grass-roots surge includes more than 80,000 iraqi citizens who are fighting the terrorists.
the government in baghdad has stepped forward as well, adding more than 100,000 new iraqi soldiers and police during the past year.
UGH he drives me crazy!! Can we just move the presidential election to now and get rid of him?!!
Thanks for the article nvr!
when i was in the organisation was in a few different congs.
every one always had a good proportion of them that claimed they had "me".
not sure what they call it in the states but think chronic fatigue may be similar.it had an age range between young teenagers and midle aged ones.
My husband told me of several women in his congo who have lupus. After about the third or fourth person he told me about, I said to him, "you'd better be careful, you'll have it soon".
One of his JW friends from home was purported to have chronic fatigue...now I wonder...
i am spending the week at my sons house in seattle to help him while recovering from knee surgery.
i answered the doorbell and it was a young woman by herself.
she read a scripture from james (can't remember) and offered me the a&w.
We actually had some leave literature in the door the other day. Hubby is an active JW...don't they know where their dubs live? He certainly doesn't need to be recruited twice...
this board has seen dozens of threads from people who have gotten involved with a jw/lapsed jws.
most have no idea what being a jw means.
many don't even discover the jw connection until they are quite involved.
Lady Lee, you hit it on the head. If you read my first post, you'll see that what you said is my life in a nutshell.
The first shock that sent him back was marriage...it didn't stick (mostly I think because he couldn't quit smoking).
The second shock that sent him back for good was our beautiful baby girl. This time he quit smoking (because I had quit before I got pregnant so he didn't have it around) and he's been super dub ever since.
I threatened him with divorce because he was trying to indoctrinate my older daughter by having 1/2 hour sessions with her on Sundays (he was reading the "My Book of..." with her) and he told me that he wanted to take our little one to meetings. After I told him to get out, the 1/2 hour sessions stopped (his reported hours must have plunged...) and he has made no more metion of taking our baby to meetings. After I told him I wanted a divorce, he refused to leave...after all, "Jehovah hates a divorcing". I don't know whether he won't leave because he'd look bad in the congregation or because he couldn't get remarried because there was no adultery (unless you count the fact that he's having an affair with an organization).
Now I am just existing in our marriage. I try every once in awhile to throw something out to him so he can see the light, but I fear he's too far gone. His mom became a JW after her hubby left her when my JW was only 7 or so. She had three kids (7, 6 and newborn) and they jumped on her. So, he's about as bad as a born-in JW as far as social skills and education. I have tried to reason with him, fight with him, shock him (the pedophilia cases). Nothing works. He just goes blank. I actually think that his involvement with the WTBTS has caused him some mental illness. It amazes me how fast he can get mad then turn it off on a dime.
And that's all I have to say about that...
1. a "shower" as in "baby shower" or "wedding shower" was when a bunch of people got together to take a shower together.
which didn't go over well with me when my mom wanted to go to a shower without my dad.. 2. when my father said to my mom that he was going to marry somebody, as in do there vows or something, i thought he was going to marry somebody else and start another family.
i almost fainted when he told me that he was leaving to go do that.
I don't remember any from my childhood...I'll have to think on that. But my daughter recently told me that she used to think that if a song was too long that the CD would blow up. Another person I knew thought that the bank kept the money you deposited in a box for you.
I do remember one...I used to think that when a song played on the radio that the band was actually at the station.
and holy shite what an interesting ceremony.
talk about a lot of tradition.
and standing.
Ahhhhh, yes, genuflecting. I remember when I went to my first Catholic service. I told my boyfriend at the time that if I'd known that we were going to be exercising during the service, I would have worn my sweats....
my husband asked me a questions that kind of stumped me for a moment.
he asked, in genesis, when cain killed abel, and god, as punishment cursed him and drove him from the land, making him a restless wanderer, why did cain say to god that the punishment was too hard; that anyone who found him would kill him?
who was going to kill him?
I have asked the same question over and over and never gotten an answer. Good luck! My JW's answer was, "Well, just because the Bible doesn't say that God created other people doesn't mean he didn't". I wonder if that's a WTBTS sanctioned answer?
tell me the story behind the picture.... why is mr flipper mr flipper?
how much do you look like zappa, jk666?
and gopher - are you really a little old man?
Well, I don't have an avatar because I just haven't taken the time to figure it out, but if I did, I think it'd be either a big middle finger or Marge Simpson. I can't decide.
I call myself Mrs. Witness because hubby is a gung-ho JW and I am not and I thought it was ironic to call myself that. I love irony & sarcasm. Also, when I think of my screen name, I say it like Tim Conway used to say "Missus-a-Whiiiggins" on the Carol Burnett show, so it sounds like "Missus-a-Whiiitness".
I've been checking in off & on and I've noticed that nvr & purplesofa aren't here much...anyone know anything?
it has dawned on me that i have not become the christian that i thought i would when leaving the jw religion.. i don't deny the power of faith, i retain faith in something beyond just the here and now, or maybe i retain credulous belief that way?
i have discovered that my religion was bad - then i discovered that the 'holy writ' upon which it is founded is pretty leaky also.
then i discovered that most "holy writings" are just as porous.
AK Jeff, it sounds like you have gotten to where I am. I was never a big religious person anyway, but after arguing the Holey Biblee with Mr. Witness, I started to really read it, I read books about it, read books about the Gnostic gospels, I read "The Gospel of Judas", read about the apocrypha, I read a really good book about who wrote the pentateuch, read things online, and all the time I kept remembering when I was in high school reading Greek mythology then reading the bible and reading about the Egyptian pantheon and thinking "who's to say that the Greeks & Egyptians had it wrong and the bible-thumpers have it right"? (OK, that is possibly the longest runon sentence I have ever written...sorry)
Once I admitted outloud to hubby that I didn't believe the bible (I was strangely afraid to say it out loud...), I was free. I felt airy. But then I thought "shouldn't I believe in something?". So I looked at Buddhism...seemed like something I could get into...chanting, meditating, cool. I read two books about it and realized that there were unbelievable stories in that religion, too.
Once I realized that, I realized that regardless of whether or not any religion has the answer, I alone have to answer for my actions. I alone am responsible for me AND I don't have to answer to anyone but myself FOR me...there is no higher power, body of elders, or group of gossipy grammas that I owe anything to. I owe my mom & dad thanks for giving birth to me and that is IT, man. I am "good for goodness sake". To me, that is better than being "good" because a religion told me to be "good"...and they defined what's good...
Why are we here? Why do bad things happen to good people? Those are questions I don't worry about. I just live my life the best I can and when I get to the end, I'll deal with what happens...and if nothing happens, then I'm done.
Peace...